The Saga Of The Head-In-The-Sand Liberal Goes On

Is there any hope or does an intervention by some intelligent, in-the-know people in order?  I for one would like an in-person debate, but not with someone with this mindset.  Here are some additional Facebook comments, (with pictures and last names of people deleted to protect their privacy).  If you want to see my previous post on what transpired on Facebook, go to:  http://www.freespeechpolitics.us/general/trying-to-wake-up-a-liberal-is-a-job-and-a-half

·                                                                 Chip: Is our President a racist??? 1- His long standing relationship with Rev Wright –“Martin Luther King was wrong to advocate for non-violence for blacks “born in the oven of America.” 2- His instant condemnation of the Cambridge police who simply followed procedure re: a man without ID breaking in to his own home. 3- Spinning “Border Security” into racism in Arizona. 4-A “mandate to dismiss black on white crime in Justice Dept.! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/06/ex-official-accuses-justice-department-racial-bias-black-panther-case/

Ex-Official Accuses Justice Department of Racial Bias in Black Panther Case

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In emotional and personal testimony, an ex-Justice official who quit over the handling of a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party accused his former employer of instructing attorneys in the civil rights division to ignore cases that involve black defendants and white victims.

Chip  This is the guy who, in Black Panther militant garb and brandishing a weapon to intimidate “poll monitors” in Philadelphia…was released by Holder. But it’s the violence-prone Tea Party crazies Pelosi is worried about???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APZ3-Lcbwmc

 

Helene  

Thank you for helping to spread this information and video. I don’t know if mainstream media is reporting this.

 

Chip  

Mainstream won’t go near it….(I know you were kidding!LOL)

 

Jim  

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/bush-era_doj-er_stoking_new_black_panther_case.php#more

 

Jim  

“Calling someone a racist is okay but you have to have evidence. It appears that evidence and logic are two things that the Tea Parties don’t seem to value. The movement is based on irrational anger and resentment toward the first black authority figure our nation has ever been forced to address. That is the source of much of the anger.

“… See MoreComplaints about socialist policies are a bit hypocritical. The United States is a capitalist society, but not completely. We were socialists when the government intervened to save banks. We use socialism when Americans ask for unemployment benefits, social security payments or to be saved from foreclosure. We are also using forms of socialism when Americans want to call the fire or police departments. The Tea Partiers seem to love capitalism when it benefits them, but embrace socialist concepts when they are demanding that the government bail them out of their economic hardships.

“Like other silly movements of the past, the Tea Party Express will eventually die. At the same time, they have a very real ability to impact the midterm elections. Republicans will gain congressional seats and then find themselves to be just as ineffective as their predecessors. That is the pattern of Washington.”
– Boyce Watkins

 

Helene  

There are none so blind as those who will not see. I’ll believe a video of someone saying he wants to kill all white people inlcuding babies before I believe a written story not showing both sides of the issue. Amazing what people don’t want to see.

 

Patricia  

YES he is a racist….that is extremely obvious. Too bad he hates his family and himself so much that he actually thinks he understands and relates to civil rights issues stemming….BO was raised by white grandparents while his father and mother abandoned him…and he went to the most expensive school in the US in Hawaii….he is a fraud! Whew…..got that off my chest!

 

Jim

White people calling Obama racist.
Snort.
“…before I believe a written story not showing both sides of the issue.” Helene, if ignorance were cornflakes, you’d be General Mills.

 

Patricia

Jim….you must live in a vacuum……keep snorting all you want….the truth is still the truth

 

Jim  

I know you support the Constitution, Patricia. Tell me, is it the part of the Constitution that accepts slavery? Is it the part of the Constitution that declares blacks three fifths the status of a white person? Were your ancestors kidnapped in Africa and sold as chattel on the open market? Were you kept you from voting until the Voting Rights act… See More of 1965, have you ever been forced to sit at the back of the bus? Been denied service at a restaurant? Denied housing because of your whiteness?
What racist power like that have blacks EVER held over you?
I snort because you make it so damn easy.

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Karen  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIrKtoHYPsE&feature=player_embedded
Chip, I’m reposting this ranting by a man who clearly contributed to voter intimidation but is deemed okay by Jim.
Jim, please be reminded that *you* are a hated “White Cracker,” as supported by Eric Holder. This new black panther guy joins the positively defined ranks of other … See Moreradical & tax cheats residing in the White House &/or enjoying support of our Pres. This is not a black & white issue – the fault here is clear. As you love to bring up Bush, though, how would you feel if he was the one giving this guy a pass? Be honest!
(Btw, your party will be required to accept all the irrational moves of this Pres as he sets precedent for all future Presidents- so, no bellyaching in future when illegal is right & legal is not, right is wrong, freedom is avail to only some, and so it goes.)

 

Helene

Jim must be on Obama’s twist the truth board of czars. He obviously knows what’s going on, but cannot fathom the truth being real.

 

Jim  

Blacks are human like anybody else. We all have our issues.
The DOJ dropped charges because the evidence was weak. There’s no crime evidenced in the video; it’s protected freedom of speech, as unfriendly as it is.
But to focus on an angry black man while simply ignoring systematic racism against blacks over centuries that helped create this guy is patently absurd. And not a little racist itself. Stop being so scared of cultures other than your own.

 

Jim  

Helene , I would never claim to know the truth of which you in your arrogant ignorance are ever so certain.

 

Karen  

Helene & Patricia, keep focused & keep on keeping on. Jim is MSNBC & Huffington Post’s biggest fan. For over a yr of reconnecting & talking to actual TEA member protests, Jim, you still feel more informed than they are but you’re obviously not. While you writes, “The Tea Partiers seem to love capitalism when it benefits them, but embrace socialist… See More concepts when they are demanding that the government bail them out of their economic hardships.” Well, allow me to correct you beyond the Capitolism notation, which is not a dirty word. TEA members *don’t* want socialism or bailouts to even be necessary & hate that the out of control spending gov’t that you hated under Bush is suddenly welcomed of this Pres. The entire bailout process & need can be blamed on leadership wrong doings going way back, Jim, yet you find this acceptible. Instead you belittle your hard working fellow citizens for merely wanting to keep a larger amt. of pay & DO want to take care of the needy amongst us. Don’t you???

 

Karen  

Opps, back on subject … Okay, let’s cheer on this Black Panther Guy for his hate rants & death wishes while he stood at the entrance of the voting booths w/billyclubs. Yeah, poor guy, he’s suffered so under the promises of freedom, which allow him to say it freely here, Jim; he wants you dead.

 

Chip  

The point of this original post was not in and of itself to pass
judgment. The point of this post was to put up factual information that
you will not see on the CBS Evening News, and allow the readers to judge
for themselves. With all due respect Jim, what we were doing in 1965, or whether or not we were ever forced to sit in the back of the bus has
absolutely zero, zip, nada to do with whether or not this Justice… See More
Department is doing its job TODAY. I submit that this evidence would
suggest they are not. Keep the faith ladies, truth ultimately prevails
over “the ends justify the means” crowd. ♥

 

 

Jim  

That wasn’t me with that quote. I was quoting someone else who sees whites as afraid of Obama because he’s black, which sounds good to me.
I even thought of eliminating that passage because I know Tea Partiers don’t believe that, or wouldn’t if they weren’t so old they benefit from things like Social Security and Medicare.
For me the classic rant… See More of the year was from a Tea Partier at one of those town hall meetings earlier in the year who screamed, “Keep the government’s hands off my Medicare!”
OK, for the sake of argument, let’s say that guy wants me dead. With Afghanistan, the economy, the oil spill ands the millions of other things going on, you guys are bent out of shape over some black guy that doesn’t like whites.
Blacks are Boogymen to you, something you could keep in the recesses of your minds…until, that is, Obama came along. Why else would you and Fox be focusing on this?
Help! The scary black men are coming to rape our women and kill our children!
Sorry, I have better things to do with my time.

 

Karen  

But Jim, you claim that Helene is displaying arrogant ignorance when she defines you as twisting the truth while knowing better but then you proceed to do it yourself.
You write the following AGAIN: “… The [TEA] movement is based on irrational anger and resentment toward the first black authority figure our nation has ever been forced to address… See More. That is the source of much of the anger. Stop being so scared of cultures other than your own.”

Well, Jim, who the heck are you talking to? Don’t see how the color of our Pres’s skin guarantees his success or failure, makes for good policy or bad policy. Also, don’t see why you’ve decided that concerns over the use of intimidation at the polls is merely “fear of a culture.” Only you’ve been doing this; writing these convenient untruth assertions about skin color over & over & over. Arrogant & ignorant comes to mind. Oh, & only you’ve declared any fears lately – of the TEA no less – who declares a “passive revolution” & not a call for your death.

Jim  

I guess you didn’t see a post of Helene’s on some other of Chip’s posts when she said said she turned an 80-year-old “hippie” into a white supremacist. Chip admonished her and she furiously backtracked but the original statement still stood out in all its ugliness. She also called elected public servants, Democrats, all of them, “communists” and “evil” without even the slightest trace of irony.
I have no respect for abject stupidity in the service of pure ignorant hatred. You can have her.

 

Helene  

There you go Jim – twisting words around. I just told the hippy why she shouldn’t be on the left and then she went–without help from her Jewish friend here to listen to white supremists–and didn’t realize it again. So I had to steer her away from that. Chip didn’t admonish me. He was defending me. I have that whole conversation on my blog at… See More: http://www.freespeechpolitics.us/ When did I call elected public servants Democrats, all of them “Communists” and “evil” etc. I do think the Democratic Party has been hijacked by communists and that communists are an evil way of thinking. Twisting words around — every single one of them says a lot about someone’s character.

 

Helene  

By the way Jim, have you ever heard of defamation of character? Do you have Homeowners Insurance? You will need it soon.

Note:  The saga is continuing after I posted the above with the following:

Patricia 

Jim Lent…you sound like a dope……and by the way, did you happen to read any of Obama’s books. His father had servents/slaves in kenya…hmmm I wonder if they were white. I support the Constitution and the abolishment of slavery which is/was deplorable…..and I believe you still live in a vacuum or another time/space….I really don’t know you and you obviously do not know me…..but you are barking up the wrong tree…get your facts straight and then we can have a serious discussion….
 
 

Jim 

Patricia, I would be interested to see if you could point out to me the passages that explain Obama’s father had servants, which, of course, is not the same thing as having slaves. I’m not saying he didn’t, and it wouldn’t matter if he did, he did become a senior economist in the Kenyan Ministry of Finance before his life spiraled out of control See Moreand he died at age 46. I would just like you to see your prodigious scholarship at work.

I’m trying to stay away from you poisonous people but the pedagogue in me just won’t jet me, fruitless as it is.
It’s difficult dealing with people consumed by hate who seem to have gotten their education primarily from sticking their heads up their asses – or Glenn Beck’s – and commenting on the view.
And Chip, for the thousandth time, your complete inability to form a coherent argument and instead substitute mindless smears is revealed for all to see. But, as I said elsewhere, the only people reading our eruptions now are your diehard fans with similar propensities so your intellectual inadequacies remain unseen by civilized people.
But you are going to have to come up with someone other than Alinsky to use as your smear. I’ve never read him and don’t really know that much about him.
Thank you for your time. You guys just stay in your caves, I need to get out in the light.

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